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Amazing work once again, thank you for continuing to put so much effort into this media Staff, very entertaining read!

This is turning into arguement more than anything..but solely regarding this topic you are the most ignorant person I have ever talked to.. I'm not here to persaude anyones ideal on this topic, your thoughts are your own, but I have my opinion and will state it here in the most respectful way, without any sarcasm or pun. Don't put words in my mouth. You come at someone saying their thoughts are incorrect of course that person is going to come back at you with a rebuttal, are they not? You keep telling me that bringing up ciggarettes and alcohol is stupid and doesn't support anything whatsoever, support your argument instead of shooting it down. Who are you to conclude what is relevant in a discussion or not without giving reason? At least I'm putting in effort to give reason instead of a statement. The reason why people keep posting about these "vices" are because it has everything to do with the subject, Marijuana, which is the topic of this thread in the Slope section of the forums. "My whole original point was that the 'facts' listed were in fact just blatant lies and abuse of statistical evidence (which I can back up). Since then we've seen everything from cigarettes, to booze, to personal experiences brought up, which really makes no one change their mind on the ONE ISSUE that should be being discussed (as Ford so eloquently did). In a discussion - it's possible to discuss 1 issue without bringing in other issues. To say that those other vices are brought up out of relevance says 1 of 2 things" How is what the OP is saying just blatant lies and bullshit? Your imposing your judgement without giving anyone a chance. I've heard other posters regarding the Hemp Industry, other medicines, other drugs, other topics, why are you judging what is okay to post here and what's not? "Sorry to ruin your day, but that's the way it is. You don't need to 'get through to them', or even discuss it further if they don't want to. Hell, why even bother responding to them if you feel their claims are ridiculous?" Don't worry about ruining my day, your not, as a SSgt you should know how to talk to people with respect without pun, debate or not, were here to discuss yet your shooting everyone down and threatening to close the thread down, for what? Add some more attacks in your posts, please, this is the discussion section of non-important topics in the forums, discussing my ideals is permitted if I remember..

I am relaxed, this is debate, you can't expect to bring this topic up and just have a discussion on it, there's a reason why this is such a huge problem. Anything CAN happen with anything, its funny when a supporter says something its not okay and were looked upon being defensive or getting mad, you can't point the finger in someones face and not expect to get your hand slapped away. I'm taken back by how hard-headed people are with their ideals and act as if they were open to everyone. I don't need to say anything else, please read my prior posts, they make perfect sense and are completely relevant. Saying alcohol and ciggarettes is irrelevant to this subject just "wows" me. You act as if we don't ever talk about marijuana itself and try to support our ideals solely on that, but people's arrogance make it impossible to help someone understand the topic better. Look through this thread and tell me there isn't someone who simply said, "marijuana is a drug and messes you up, it should stay illegal." Explain to me how you get through someone like this without bringing up other vices and broadening the subject.

"As for weed smokers you can become very forgetful. I made a friend of mine stop for a month and her grades went up by a whole letter grade no difference in anything else. And she said herself she could remember more." In this statement, you make a broad conclusion saying all weed smokers are forgetful which simply isn't true, what your saying is a judgement of a group of people, then you share a experience, legitimizing how not smoking does better, which also simply isn't true for all.

That's one person and your basing your judgment on a group of people based on a study you conducted yourself, how is this relevant or fair? Edit: Yes, users of marijuana can get defensive, but this goes for any topic with 2-sides. We bring other "vices" into the subject because there relevant to what's being discussed, how is it any different? Alcohol prohibition is a prime example, and what is different about a ciggarette that makes it legal but makes marijuana illegal, everything we bring up and talk about has a point. We dont simply just say well "Drunks kill more than stoners." This is why there is such negligence in actually seperating the "feeded lies and bullshit" from the "truth." TSgt you say what Goodwin says is true, but you use a irrational study to legitimize your point, which is a huge contradiction.

This thread is really just "wow." There will be supporters and anti-supporters always, but you still have to respect what people have to say. If someone says "here's why I believe it should be legalized or it has positive aspects," don't go off saying marijuana is a narcotic and get's you high, that's a very ignorant statement supported by no real facts. It's sad to see how "brain-washed and misinformed" some of the MRB unit members are when it comes to this subject and even still they attack other people. Marijuana is not a "gateway" drug, this theory has been tested and asked over and over, by millions. Show me some statistics saying recreational marijuana use will higher the chance of using something like Coke or Heroin. Guaranteed the facts you pull say otherwise. University of Pittsberg, University of Amsterdam, University of Washington, University of Ohio, pull their studies on this topic, all concluded there is no "gateway" effect like people accuse to be. Secondly, what does the US export everywhere such as Canada, that brings millions of deaths a year? Ciggarettes. Try to justify this subject and see if the topics don't clash. It doesn't make sense. Third, decriminalization is a failure system and does not work whatsoever. What a joke. Why even have my case dismissed if i'll have something in my record titlting me as a "POT SMOKER" for the rest of my life. Why was it even dismissed then, why not just charge me, what's the difference? No government aid or school grants afterwards? Try going to school with no financial aid, its tough, nearly impossible for most, but that's how were "dealt" with. Fourth, Marijuana does not cause Cancer, yes smoking a crude plant matter and firing it up and breathing it in your lungs is bad, obviously, but the actual Marijuana itself has no such effects. If you disagree, I respect your opinion but please support your statement with actual evidence not simply "what you think or what you think you know" I assure 80% of you are misinformed about the topic, but I'd gladly help and go more in depth about the topic if anyone was interested. ________________________________________________________________________________ ___________ EDIT: And this is with no pun or disrespect intended, but I will use the 2nd Lt's post for example.. "There is no 100% overview of marijuana, there is tons of "explanations" and "analyses" of the drug marijuana, but all showing different things. -Completely false, there are thousands of studies and scientific studies, from labs to Universities to even our own Governments studies, conducted with more than enough reputable history for it to be legit information. Most if not all, concluding the current marijuana policies are a joke and make no sense. These studies do not get big media attention and often go ignored, hmm wonder why.. What is quite clearly is that if you smoke Marijuana your not gonna die any earlier death than if you smoke cigarettes all your life, so the physical conditions are about the same. -Completely false, in comparison a ciggarette smoker and a recreational marijuana smoker, guaranteed the ciggarette smokers quality of life is lower, and health is lower. Now of course you will have your odd-number every now and then but this is definitly for "the general population." But we know that the only substance that affects your brain in cigarettes and nicotine. As for Marijuana there are several more, due to the plants chemical build-up and the processing in labs.-Not sure where you heard this but marijuana is not processed in labs, lol. The typical marijuana bud has no affiliations with laboritories. As for the mental, marijuana is i would say is lethal, because it causes procedures in your brain that slowly eats your brain cells, and causes several mental illnesses (exposed to marijuana over time) -Could you please list what mental illnesses can be caused by marijuana use over time and a case where someone actually was diagnosed this because of their smoking habit. Case in fact, this is completely false, yes you lose brain cells, but causing mental illnesses is a joke, that is solely dependent on it's user and their genes/history/health. And besides.. when you meet a person who has smoked marijuana, he has no control of the situation and could easily be doing something he/she would regret later.." -I don't even know how to respond to this accusation. No control of the situation and could do something stupid? Sounds like a drunk to me. However, there are millions and millions are recreational marijuana smokers, why hasn't our world gone to shit yet? Because these avid people aren't the" couch-lock good for nothing stoner" you see in films, they have control over their lives, better yet, it's almost as if marijuana doesn't have the negative effect people believe it to have. It's because its true, it's a plant, its natural, do I think legalization will happen, possibly, all depends on California's voting. Thats a part of the game! you rarely meet a drug addict who just smokes marijuana, whether you explore other drugs yourself or gets pushed to it doesnt matter. the fact is that marijuana is what usually people starts with. It harms your ability to thing strait.... leaving and open market for drug addicts to try and sell you more harmful drugs -This is just a claim supported by nothing. The "gateway" theory simply isn't true and i've supported my argument for those unsure, people are misinformed, and because of Prohibition and because of marijuana policies, people are more susceptable to harder drugs, because they have to deal with a "dealer," who may in fact be selling one or more other substances. Not because there moving on from Marijuana to the next.

Fyi, the Pharmaceutical Industry is the #1 Profitable Industry, period. Now why would big pharmaceutical companies want a medicine people can tend for themselves for little to nothing, instead of chemically made, and mastered medicines that they profit billions from. And if your argument is that Marijuana has no medicinal value whatsoever, I laugh at that statement.. Edit: About having medicinal value, if THC the active ingredient in Marijuana didn't have any medicinal value, why would the pharmaceutical company take THC and make a actual pill-type medicine with THC as the most active ingredient in it, side effects including Dizzyness, Drowsiness, Extreme sense of Happiness, sounds like smoking a J to me?

Smh, a lot of you have definitly fell for the "brain-wash" bullshit that goes around about Marijuana, sad to see how misinformed some of you are, but I won't get into details.

Happy Birthday!

Great job everyone! Sniper, its been too long...

Rotten Tomatoes never lies!

I had about 20 different people say this movie was absolutly horrible.

Amazing work, well done.

I've been painballing for over 8 years, even played nationally, and still enjoy it as much as I did the first time I played to this day..it's a healthy hobby but expensive. Sure I haven't had the time to hit the fields in 2 years but Woodsball/Scenario paintball is a adrenaline rush and I would recommend it to anyone in the unit.

0:36-1:05 was entertaining!