2012 NHL Lockout

[Parker 1st MRB]

Has anyone else heard the rumors about Fehrs master plan for the cap?

Lol not happening. The biggest bargaining chip the players had was a potential strike, when they started that they lost any edge in negotiations they might have had. Owners can wait as long as they want, they have another source of income, the players can't afford that luxury. No matter what they agree to, the players will ultimately lose in any deal they make. Whenever there is a strike the players never win, look at '05 when they went from no cap to a fixed cap. The owners won that deal and there's NO WAY they want to go back to a no cap era where player salaries are increased exponentially.

[Englebretson 1st MRB]

All that matters to me is this dog and pony show of greed comes to an end bettman gets replaced and the NHL gets rid of several teams either by relocating them or saying to fucking bad.

[Mamora BAR]

This year would be so much better if hockey was on. i still cant get over the fact that the winter classic is dead. If there is even hope of a season left i dont know i think just all the fans would be extremely bitter about it. Although i wouldnt mind being able to see the jets play down here in Anaheim.

[Englebretson 1st MRB]

Praise Jesus!

[Pandalsson 1st MRB]

So, latest scuttlebutt is that Bettman is trying to get owners/players only meeting. Apparently he's tired of dealing with Fe-Wall-hr (yes, that's a chemistry pun) for whatever reason x y or z.

That meeting should be funny. Like a father having that condescending "son, you need to get your crap together" talk.

Wonder if the players will stand so "united" when the average player is getting screwed out of 100% of his paycheck while the megastars keep the strike going because they don't want to lose their rich deals.

Really hard to have any sympathy for anyone in this, maybe except the majority of the NHLPA members, guys who *aren't* the megastars. Of course, of the stars who decided to jump to other leagues to "stay in shape" (*cough* get a paycheck *cough*), it's funny that two of the league's biggest names (Crosby and Stamkos) aren't because, oh, I don't know, they're not hypocritical d-bags? But even they, in the face of a season long lockout are starting to look at options. Doesn't bode well.

Oh, and good find Engle on that article.

[Englebretson 1st MRB]

[Englebretson 1st MRB]

I am in no way shape or form a fan of Roenick, but I have to agree with several points he brings up.

Praise Jebus

[Mamora BAR]

The worst is coming. Union is talking about desertification......the end of the NHL is on the horizon...-sigh-

[Parker 1st MRB]

The worst is coming. Union is talking about desertification......the end of the NHL is on the horizon...-sigh-

Lol calm down. Every union threatens their respective league with desertification during a strike, it doesn't mean shit.

[Mamora BAR]

Ya but when you go on for this long and everything fails that includes bringing in federal mediators AND letting the owners and players talk only to eachother and nothing is still done? Idk...what else is there?

[Pandalsson 1st MRB]

Not sure. Remember that the NBA de-certified last season and it enabled the NBA to roll again (perception of results vary of course).

NBA Decertification blog here.

I have to stop looking at Engle's links at work.

[Yamagata 1st MRB]

Desertification?

Right, anyways... Wouldn't a decertification be better for the fans that want to see hockey games again? If the union decertifies, what else is left to stop the players from playing? Oh well, lockout didn't work, go right on back to making a million dollars a year. With a decertified union, that means no more union dues, meaning they would make more money, problem solved. It's not like the players are being mistreated...

[Mamora BAR]

bite me yama you knew what i meant! lol Stupid chrome auto correct. If the union does this then the NHL will be in a legal bind which will result in Bettman going to jail.

Edited December 4, 2012 by Mamora BAR

[Yamagata 1st MRB]

If the union does this then the NHL will be in a legal bind which will result in Bettman going to jail.

Good?

[Englebretson 1st MRB]

Very good

[Parker 1st MRB]

NHL lockout update: NHL commissioner Gary Bettman will address the media at approximately 1 p.m. ET Wednesday afternoon.

HUGE NEWS! Good or bad, nobody knows yet. This news comes after the players and owners met yesterday in NYC without the presence of Fehr and Bettman. So this either means there's gonna be hockey in December or there's gonna be no hockey this year. PLEASE LET THERE BE HOCKEY!

[Mamora BAR]

According to reports the talks are "good" and progressing. I hope your right parker. If hockey comes back this year would be SOOO much better. Gonna run around my fuckin town wearin my jets jersey for dam sure. I'm dieing for some hockey here.

[Kanganis]

Great Look! Sorry if I don't sound so optimistic but it seems like the NHL and the NHLPA are still quite a bit away from reaching an agreement. I want Hockey back and I want to see Madison Square Garden come to life. However, as of now we can only hope that they will reach an agreement soon. This isn't the best thing that could have happened, but it is certainly not the worst.

Edited December 6, 2012 by Kanganis 1st MRB

[Englebretson 1st MRB]

Apparently some asshats went on twitter with names similar to several key members in the negotiations and said the lockout is over. For 10mins I was about to run around my office naked until they confirmed it was a hoax.

[Kanganis]

Yeah. I was waiting checking my phone constantly during my last class of the day to see if the lockout was over. What a buzzkill to discover that basically no progress was made.

[Mamora BAR]

3 consistent days of ongoing meetings. Something is coming. Not sure on whether or not it is good cause Bettman and fehr are back at the table again.

[Englebretson 1st MRB]

They are going to ban Mamora from all future Jets games.

[Mamora BAR]

bite me engle! lol

[Mamora BAR]

and the NHLPA submits an offer and it gets rejected and negotiations for the past few days crumbles before our eyes. Everyone back to your shanties...sigh

[Englebretson 1st MRB]

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