North Carolina House Joint Resolution 494

[Morton]

So eleven North Carolina Republicans are pushing through a resolution that pretty much ignores both the US Constitution and their state constitution. So what is your take on this raiders? I'm especially interested in anyone's view from North Carolina.

Personally I'm outraged. This is so Unconstitutional it boggles the mind to even contemplate this. It is one step short of just establishing a state religion in my opinion. Now lets look at it in full.

Section 1:

The North Carolina General Assembly asserts that the Constitution of the United States of America does not prohibit states or their subsidiaries from making laws respecting an establishment of religion.

Hello Representatives Ford and Warren yes it does, its called the Constitution. which any 5th grader can tell you is the Supreme Law of the land, even your own State Constitution Article 1, Section 5 of the North Carolina Constitution requires the state to observe federal law: "Every citizen of this State owes paramount allegiance to the Constitution and government of the United States, and no law or ordinance of the State in contravention or subversion thereof can have any binding force." However in the spirit of debate, I'll allow you to ask the Supreme Court, who as you know is given the right by the Constitution to decide what is Constitutional... Wait this brings up Section 2.

The North Carolina General Assembly does not recognize federal court rulings which prohibit and otherwise regulate the State of North Carolina, its public schools, or any political subdivisions of the State from making laws respecting an establishment of religion.

To me this suggests that they know it is unconstitutional to begin with. Why else would they ignore any federal court ruling?

[Teachey]

Defense of religion? I thought we already had the 1st Amendment which gave us the freedom of religion. So what more do they want with it? Now I don't live in North Carolina and I never will, but this seems a bit too silly. I agree it is unconstitutional and its a stupid proposal.

[Griswold]

So eleven North Carolina Republicans are pushing through a resolution that pretty much ignores both the US Constitution and their state constitution. So what is your take on this raiders? I'm especially interested in anyone's view from North Carolina.

Personally I'm outraged. This is so Unconstitutional it boggles the mind to even contemplate this. It is one step short of just establishing a state religion in my opinion. Now lets look at it in full.

Section 1:

The North Carolina General Assembly asserts that the Constitution of the United States of America does not prohibit states or their subsidiaries from making laws respecting an establishment of religion.

Hello Representatives Ford and Warren yes it does, its called the Constitution. which any 5th grader can tell you is the Supreme Law of the land, even your own State Constitution Article 1, Section 5 of the North Carolina Constitution requires the state to observe federal law: "Every citizen of this State owes paramount allegiance to the Constitution and government of the United States, and no law or ordinance of the State in contravention or subversion thereof can have any binding force." However in the spirit of debate, I'll allow you to ask the Supreme Court, who as you know is given the right by the Constitution to decide what is Constitutional... Wait this brings up Section 2.

The North Carolina General Assembly does not recognize federal court rulings which prohibit and otherwise regulate the State of North Carolina, its public schools, or any political subdivisions of the State from making laws respecting an establishment of religion.

To me this suggests that they know it is unconstitutional to begin with. Why else would they ignore any federal court ruling?

This comes as close to a succession for the states that I can think of. Righting a law that ignores the rulings of the supreme court and ignores the U.S. Constitution. This in and of it self is a crime against the people living in North Carolina. If this passes I see another civil war starting, once again between the North and South.

Edit #1: If this passes, you end up breaking the most paramount part of the U.S. Constitution. The right of the people to persue life, love and the pursuit of happiness. You end up breaking another right of the people which is the right of religious freedom. Furthermore it also breaks the seperation of church and state that this country was built on.

[Zorbanos 1st MRB]

this is just outrageously ridiculous, plain and simple

quickly google searching this to see what it currently going on with this issue, i am happy to report that they killed this bill

crazy bastards