Berlin attack

[Guest Boone 1st MRB]

Guy drove into a christmas fair earlier this evening in Berlin. Happened about an hour ago, 9 dead atm. Might wanna check the news guys, they say it's a new terrorist attack, they were expecting one in Berlin. Sad that they can still get trough with a truck

[Marsden 1st MRB]

It is sad that this is the world we live in. One would think that random acts of violence against civilians would have receded to be points of history, not an expected fact of life in this day and age....

[I. Turner 1st MRB]

They continue to do it cause the media blasts it all over the place and instills the fear which is exactly what the group is looking for and they get the publicity they seek which helps them rule over the people they seek to . If the media would stop blasting it and ignore it like it use to before the 2000s then it would not happen.

[Almeida]

39 minutes ago, I. Turner 1st MRB said:

They continue to do it cause the media blasts it all over the place and instills the fear which is exactly what the group is looking for and they get the publicity they seek which helps them rule over the people they seek to . If the media would stop blasting it and ignore it like it use to before the 2000s then it would not happen.

Media makes it worse for sure, but on the other hand I believe ppl should know who these people are and which places are unsafe. And if this was not broadcast in TV the terrorists would put it in internet anyway, as they did during Iraq war.

[Marsden 1st MRB]

I do agree that there should be information about these events available to the public, however as to helping people know were is safe, that would be no where. People develop a false sense of security in their daily routines, and stop watching what is around them or put themselves unnecessarily at risk. Call it hyper vigilance from my touch of PTSD if you will, but I think a larger problem then the media blasting on it is peoples lack of awareness for what is occuring around them and not enough people having the balls to try and help those around them.

 

There used to be a Marine Corps add campaign run in the States, the message was very simple: "When the shooting starts, which way will you run?"

 

From my perspective if you love your family and community, and have the means to potentially help those around you (even in a non-violent capacity such as helping wounded or scared people away), you should act on it and move forward under cover when available. I am not saying that there is anything wrong with people who seek to escape and preserve themselves; Fight or Flight reactions are a bitch and work differently for everyone. I have been in an active shooter scenario twice through my life, and each time my reaction was to fight. As I was unarmed in the first instance I applied that by getting multiple people to safety during a shooting in downtown Sacramento California and making sure people stayed behind things more substantial than a clothing display rack. The second time occurred in Sacramento with a drive by between rival gangs, my friends and I were armed and moved several scared people into a cement enclosure that stored the dumpsters to keep them safe from fire and pushed the dumpsters out for cover and held the ground with our pistols in the event an active shooter made a move toward those less able to defend themselves. Luckily the shooters did not come our way as I would feel remorseful for having to take lethal action but would have done so without hesitation. On the arrival of the police we took the only logical course of actions to preserve our lives, we dropped our pistols, kicked them away and went prone with our hands on our heads. Allowed the police to detain, search and question us and were released with no charges presented despite being in California and none of us possessing a concealed carry permit. They kept my Colt 1911 though.

[Almeida]

Well, just to be clear, my point was that ppl have the right of having information, I wasn't touching the issue of hiding x acting against, so of course all you said is true and even more true if ppl know how, when, where and against what to act. One good example is the increased amount of young frenchs joining the army, police or any organization which can pro actively fight terrorism. They did/do so because of the huge commotion caused by those attacks in Paris and elsewhere which were the focus of scrutiny in international medias.

 

This was one of the reasons I took my then fiancee out of eastern germany this year, I could see with my eyes the "refugees" everywhere and I knew they like to rage rape white women. She also didn't feel safe there. Germany is a place very different from USA or the UK, it was so safe that one could not see police often patrolling, women could walk alone during the night back in 2014 in Munich, in public parks which are pretty much desert. Now these ppl are everywhere doing easily these things because it is difficult to catch them (no cameras or no police or simply no ppl around).

[Marsden 1st MRB]

It is sad to here that things have gotten so bad over there T.T

[Guest Boone 1st MRB]

It is more sad that this could even happen after Nice. Every big event in Belgium is surrounded by concrete blocks so trucks or whatever cant get trough.

[J. Hill]

Its sad the government was warned it would happen, yet they took no precautions.

[Almeida]

15 minutes ago, J. Hill said:

Its sad the government was warned it would happen, yet they took no precautions.

As it was said by a german friend of mine: german economy is (not surprisingly) boosted by cheap labour and dumping. It is exactly the "secret" of any skyrocketing economy, China being the paragon. Now there is a shortage of cheap workers, only the turkish they let come in decades ago won't do, they need more. Not saying all is intentional to this effect, but hey, it is quite convenient letting millions of people come in without any passport and claiming they are refugees from Syria, disguising it as "humanitarian measure".

 

Sadly Germany is not in the hands of germans, but international capital.

 

Next logical step is legalizing all of them.

[Guest Boone 1st MRB]

6 hours ago, J. Hill said:

Its sad the government was warned it would happen, yet they took no precautions.

Indeed Hill, thats exactly what i ment with my reaction, they knew it was coming and didnt even take the time to block main acces roads

[Krazer]

You all got it right for sure. All the media does is blow things out of proportion, spread negativity and manipulate the public by filling them with fear and hate.

 

The media literally disgusts me beyond belief, but it will take years (if ever) to come together and take control of "Big Brother".

[J. Hill]

The Government screwed up big time.  They should take the trouble makers, criminals, and those with ties to terrorist organizations and incarcerate them til they can be expelled from Europe.  Not send them to another country, but send them back where they came from.  Only sure way to protect the people.

 

[Guest Boone 1st MRB]

5 hours ago, J. Hill said:

The Government screwed up big time.  They should take the trouble makers, criminals, and those with ties to terrorist organizations and incarcerate them til they can be expelled from Europe.  Not send them to another country, but send them back where they came from.  Only sure way to protect the people.

 

Send them back to where they come from? you mean send them back to there ancestors lol, to hell. Give me a gun and i'll shoot all those damn terrorists who are in jail atm. It's litterly our money that keeps them alive, we pay there food, the roof above their heads, maybe even their protection so other inmates wouldnt kill them.