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Name: princesslillyfee

 

Steam I.D: unknown

 

Date & Time of ban: December 9th

 

Admin who banned you:  S. Larson

 

Reason we should Unban:

 

The following text is from lilly:

hi
sry i'm afraid i have a complaint about a misbehaving admin. 
larson has been dissing me for 4 years and now banned me over nothing.
well not nothing even, he banned me over ASKING HIM FOR HELP.


there were some toxic players again on the server and he refused to help and i said ok i would stop my complaining but that it would be VERY appreciated if he did his job then
and he didn't care. then my husband aka mightyinsect got mad cause we both have had enough of this abuse towards me and tons of admins just ignoring that and he called him a bitch - which was exactly the word that larson refused to police with the toxic people we complained about
and then he left. i said i agreed with him and then also left.
so, how does larson NOT ban 3 toxic assholes for saying that 10 times but we get an instaban??
that rly looks like an abuse of power, especially after he has repeated this behaviour over 4 years (not the banning but not helping when asked for help and istead trying to shut me up and make me take this abuse)
- i don't feel comfortable posting this on the forum
at this point my trust in the league of admins is VERY limited and i don't wanna give anyone an incentive to hate more on me
- feel free to check the ingame chat from last night, i don't think i did anything that warrants a week-long ban,

to be honest it comes across like about 1/3 of the admins couldn't care less when women are abused on the server. i four years i got help ONCE when i asked for it. - people have threatened me with violence and rape while there were admins on the server; when i ask for help i am told to stop complaining. apart from one time, NOTHING HAPPENED TO THEM!!! they don't even get a warning or get asked to respect all players on the server - but beware i get mad after 2-3 hours of abuse, then some admin will surely come around to tell me to shut up.
you know what that does? it gives toxic players a free pass to treat me, or any other women on the server, like they want.
and the admins usually stand by and watch, like this was all fun to them or like at least they don't care.
the server has, after 4 years, left me with the feeling that a good proportion of the admins hate women or at least despise them enough to let this happen on their watch. i do NOT feel protected on the server, let alone appreciated as a human being and someone who loves this game to bits.
it is a saddening and, sometimes, maddening experience. after all, i dint chose to be a women gamer, i just happen to be one. am i less deserving of respect for that?
people get banned for teamkills - except when they kill me.
people get banned for telling an admin to shut up - but they never get banned or even warned when they threaten me with rape or beatings
it is quite concerning that the admins turn a blind eye to this, it is even worse when folks like larson encourage these toxic folks by telling me to shut up when i ask for help.
 

This is my (mighty) addendum:

I pretty much agree with everything lilly wrote. It is quite sad that abusive behaviour is tolerated if not outright encouraged. I cannot count the number of times I have seen assholes get away without any repercussion because admins decide to that 'everyone should just drop it', lumping together abusers and victims of abusive behaviour. There are no rules against rape threats, insults, abuse etc.  - just to "respect the 1stMRB and BAR Members". That in itself is quite deplorable if not ill advised from a legal standpoint. But it becomes unbearable if admins effectively side with abusers and punish those seeking help.

Yesterday I called Larson a bitch (as lilly wrote, the same thing she was complaining about being called - but that wasnt even enough to get that person kicked) and was banned for a day. I do not remember my exact phrasing but the word 'bitch' was added at the end of an otherwise unoffensive sentence. Lilly said in voice chat that she agreed with me - not specifying what part of my statement she was referring to, and that resulted in a week long ban. Banning her for a week for an ambiguous statement like that seems unjustified and completely out of proportion.

I have to say that I am appalled by this.

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The ban was applied for you telling Larson that he had no idea how to do his job, and when advised not to tell the admins how to admin, you persisted. The reason it warrants a week long ban for Lily is the fact that this is the second instance of her being banned from the server for choosing to argue and attack the admins in the last two weeks. Additionally attacking those admins who have come in time and again over the last four years to ban your harassers, does not help to foster a desire for showing leniency. I personally recommend using the Source Engines built in Client mute capabilities (Esc. "Mute Players" in game). Sadly as an admin I don't have the ability to use the client mute as I have to try and monitor the comms.

 

I want to remind you that Online interactions are not rated by the ESRB or PEGI. You may encounter offensive content whilst playing in an online session.

 

We do try and ensure that people respect one another, however policing VoIP will never be something can be completed in full. When evidence of such statements are found in chat logs, we act on it, I even go through retroactively and pick user chat logs to audit at random on my lunches at work. You may not always see these bans in game as if the user in question is not connected at the time the ban is processed, nothing pops up. Your continued combative nature, and dismissive attitude toward the efforts of our admins is what resulted in a ban.

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