Facts About Marijuana

[Gooderham 1st MRB]

DAMN YOU FORD!

Ahahahaha, I don't care, I just didn't want it to get out of hand.

When I see the same two people going back and forth I tend to err on the side of caution and shut the topic down.

[Cramer]

dont dis the trees. if you live in Cali, support it. If you dont, well ya better move then. legalization is coming soon.

Amen brother!

[Legend]

I bow to the great Ford. Watch the union on google!!!

Lets just legalize pot to get rid of pot related crimes, and deciminalize everything else. Next it Gay marrage, then prostituition.

THEN, America is the new Amsterdam.

Edited July 12, 2010 by Legend 1st MRB

[Stutler]

No matter how you cut it (pun not intended), Marijuana can be devastating to your mental health.

That's not necessarily true. I personally have been diagnosed with Bi-polar disorder resulting me to have very very high anxiety (ask my brother lol). Now just like any legal prescribed mood stabilizer, anti-depressant, or anxiety medication, marijuana will not have the same effect on every person. However, marijuana has helped me tremendously in my overall well-being.

[Costa 1st MRB]

If there is ever one thing that will continue to amaze me is how stoners can go from calm to up in arms if one person ever argues anything about marijuana being anything other then healthy. Not that anyone in here has done that exactly but damn to people get up in arms about that shit.

Also about the forefathers having smoked weed, they smoked stuff back then for the taste not so much for the effect. You could find them smoking tobacco, weed, lavender, and just about anything else that could taste or smell good. And for the non-addictive side you can get addicted to anything regardless of chemicals, if you can associate feeling happy as the result of something you can get hooked on it (IE gambling addicts).

Now I'm just fucking around for the sake of debate, I have no problem with weed. I just hate when people try to fucking rationalize it as something you should do at every meal or when you're bored. I mean I can't go around trying to tell everyone that jerking off 11 times a day is an ok thing to do if you don't loose a lung or shoot someone because they're keeping you from your porn. Smoke the shit, enjoy the shit, don't talk about it. Maybe jerk off a few times in between.

[Vogt]

Have you ever, personally, heard of someone getting cancer, or dying due to the use of marijuana? Now.. how many people have you heard of, or know personally that have died due to cigarette smoking and drinking alcohol? In my life... I have known about 10 people that have lost their lives, voice boxes, and/or body parts due to cigarette smoking and alcohol intake, (this includes my grandmother, my great uncle, a 2nd cousin, my step dad's father, and many more family/friends..) How many marijuana users do I know, personally? I'm in contact with, a rough estimate of about 50 - 60 pot smokers.. including some family, some friends, and friends of friends... but how many of them have lost their lives or gained cancer? NONE. Oh, how I love real statistics.

EDIT:: Also... the funnier thing is.... those alcohol and cig users in my family... were all high school drop outs or graduates who didn't go to college... but about half of the weed smokers I know.... are in college with positive grades, or have already graduated college and are getting paid a damn good amount of money per year. HMMMMMMMMMMMM

My buddy since kindergarten, his dad is an advent pot smoker. Started when he was most likely your age or younger, I say that because you come off as a 16 year old kid blinded by only what he wants to believe, rather then actually stopping and looking around to see what's really going on. So anyways about my buddy's dad, his lungs are failing from his constant pot abuse. Yes, grant it he does smoke cigarettes... So what, big fucking deal, pot has more tar than cigarettes that's why they say to put it in a bake good or etc. And don't kid yourself we all know that the majority of pot smokers, smoke cigarettes when they're either out in public or they're just out of weed and they just need that fix from the act of smoking. Either way it's fucking bad for you, any kind of smoke in your lungs is bad, that's why people die in fires the majority of the time. (IT'S BECAUSE THEY INHALED TOO MUCH SMOKE. See where this is going now?) You just want pot to be legalized so it's easier for you and your little buddies to get your grubby little dick skinners on a bag of pot. Congratulations you're one of the few who doesn't care about paying tax for your pot, I commend you. Thing is since it's a narcotic just like alcohol and cigarettes there's going to be an age restriction on it anyways if it were legalized, and that's a big IF. Not to mention it'll most likely have the same age restriction as alcohol.

[Yamagata 1st MRB]

I don't care what you smoke/eat/drink/worship/fuck, just don't be in my face about it.

[Costa 1st MRB]

Story.

I kinda hate to pull this, but you can't exactly say marijuana caused cancer in this case if tobacco (which is proven to cause cancer) was also used.

[Collins]

Pot Smoker: "If the girl i just had sex with is Justin's cousin and Justin is is my mothers nephew and she only has one brother than the girl i had sex with is a complete stranger. Beat that Logic!"

Drunk person: "We both got something in common we had sex with your dog ugly sister."

Pot smoker: "Yeah good times."

LMFAO!!!

[Cramer]

My buddy since kindergarten, his dad is an advent pot smoker. Started when he was most likely your age or younger, I say that because you come off as a 16 year old kid blinded by only what he wants to believe, rather then actually stopping and looking around to see what's really going on. So anyways about my buddy's dad, his lungs are failing from his constant pot abuse. Yes, grant it he does smoke cigarettes... So what, big fucking deal, pot has more tar than cigarettes that's why they say to put it in a bake good or etc. And don't kid yourself we all know that the majority of pot smokers, smoke cigarettes when they're either out in public or they're just out of weed and they just need that fix from the act of smoking. Either way it's fucking bad for you, any kind of smoke in your lungs is bad, that's why people die in fires the majority of the time. (IT'S BECAUSE THEY INHALED TOO MUCH SMOKE. See where this is going now?) You just want pot to be legalized so it's easier for you and your little buddies to get your grubby little dick skinners on a bag of pot. Congratulations you're one of the few who doesn't care about paying tax for your pot, I commend you. Thing is since it's a narcotic just like alcohol and cigarettes there's going to be an age restriction on it anyways if it were legalized, and that's a big IF. Not to mention it'll most likely have the same age restriction as alcohol.

You know whats funny... I don't even smoke pot anymore.... see.. within the past year.. I've actually been entirely pot free because I'll be 18, this Wednesday and its time to grow the fuck up and get a job, education, and work on my future. I just support marijuana. I've tried it before, and I see the effects, and I still decide its better to legalize it. Not because it would be easier for me to get a hold of, (seeing how I don't use it anymore , but because it would put a lot more job opportunities on the table, it will decrease the unnecessary arrests that are happening around the country, and many more positive reason behind the legalization of marijuana.

And for those that are curious... I didn't stop smoking/eating weed because of its effects... I quit simply because its illegal and if I want to get anywhere in this society... I have to stop seeing as most jobs do drop tests.

Edited July 12, 2010 by Cramer 1st MRB

[Vogt]

I kinda hate to pull this, but you can't exactly say marijuana caused cancer in this case if tobacco (which is proven to cause cancer) was also used.

And where in there did I say it caused cancer? I said, "His lungs are failing."

[Cramer]

I don't care what you smoke/eat/drink/worship/fuck, just don't be in my face about it.

No means of disrespect Captain.. but no one is in your face about it. I'm not saying "hey! go smoke a joint! its cool! its hip! its not dangerous!".. I'm just voicing my opinion about it.

So those that are saying we're "shoving marijuana usage down throats"... stop...... don't type any further.... because you are officially not apart of this thread.. seeing as "peer pressure" or "advertisement" is not the basis of this topic. Its simply our opinions.

Edited July 12, 2010 by Cramer 1st MRB

[Cramer]

And where in there did I say it caused cancer? I said, "His lungs are failing."

It doesn't matter... either way.... you are not to say that it was the weed which caused his lung issues if tobacco was present. Unless its a non-tobacco smoker, that smokes the pot on a regular basis then comes up with lung/breathing issues, or cancer... NO ONE can say marijuana causes these problems.

[Collins]

No means of disrespect Captain.. but no one is in your face about it. I'm not saying "hey! go smoke a joint! its cool! its hip! its not dangerous!".. I'm just voicing my opinion about it.

So those that are saying we're "shoving marijuana usage down throats"... stop...... don't type any further.... because you are officially not apart of this thread.. seeing as "peer pressure" or "advertisement" is not the basis of this topic. Its simply our opinions.

You cant deny people the rights to there opinions if you want the right to yours, just keep that in mind cramer.

[Cramer]

You cant deny people the rights to there opinions if you want the right to yours, just keep that in mind cramer.

When did I EVER deny anyone from their opinion?

[Collins]

No means of disrespect Captain.. but no one is in your face about it. I'm not saying "hey! go smoke a joint! its cool! its hip! its not dangerous!".. I'm just voicing my opinion about it.

So those that are saying we're "shoving marijuana usage down throats"... stop...... don't type any further.... because you are officially not apart of this thread.. seeing as "peer pressure" or "advertisement" is not the basis of this topic. Its simply our opinions.

You cant deny people the rights to there opinions if you want the right to yours, just keep that in mind cramer.

When did I EVER deny anyone from their opinion?

Right here: "So those that are saying we're "shoving marijuana usage down throats"... stop...... don't type any further.... because you are officially not apart of this thread"

If you cant see that then thats very sad.

[Cramer]

That's not denying them from their opinions.. its telling them to stay on topic. NO WHERE in this thread are we advertising or telling people to smoke it.. we're giving our opinions on the legalization of it. If you say "don't shove it down our throats"... that's falsely accusing of peer pressure.. when that, in fact, has NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with this thread.

PS.. you failed to include, in your quote of what I said... the part about this thread not being for peer pressure.. therefore.. makes it look as if I was telling those with opinions to "gtfo".

Edited July 12, 2010 by Cramer 1st MRB

[Collins]

Look at the implications, seriously i cannot be the only one that knows this shit, seriously i never did the work or studied at school with writing but it still seems i know more than you, *fuck* (not directed at you, just anger cry), peoples opinions as innocent as they may hoped to be, are in fact biases implications that even if your not aware of it, they are still occuring, keep that in mind.

PS.. you failed to include, in your quote of what I said... the part about this thread not being for peer pressure.. therefore.. makes it look as if I was telling those with opinions to "gtfo".

Look again its there at the top!

[Cramer]

Look at the implications, seriously i cannot be the only one that knows this shit, seriously i never did the work or studied at school with writing but it still seems i know more than you fuck, peoples opinions as innocent as they may hoped to be, are in fact biases implications that even if your not aware of it, they are still occuring, keep that in mind.

Okay.. just for the sake of this thread.. I'm going to let you have your way.. and continue, ON TOPIC, that marijuana should be legal. That's my OPINION, please state yours.

[Cramer]

Look again its there at the top!

I was talking about this part.............

Right here: "So those that are saying we're "shoving marijuana usage down throats"... stop...... don't type any further.... because you are officially not apart of this thread"

If you cant see that then thats very sad.

Edited July 12, 2010 by Cramer 1st MRB

[Sarsons]

*sigh* I live in the province that produces what is reported my the "best bud around" I am almost 21 years old and I have never used any. Nor do I have any want to, while some will like to claim there are no "mental effects" think of this, why is it then that a 'recovered' chronic user will still continue to exhibit symptoms of mental 'slowness' and lack of reaction time or perception. (not to mention F'ing up your sense of smell and taste)

[Cramer]

*sigh* I live in the province that produces what is reported my the "best bud around" I am almost 21 years old and I have never used any. Nor do I have any want to, while some will like to claim there are no "mental effects" think of this, why is it then that a 'recovered' chronic user will still continue to exhibit symptoms of mental 'slowness' and lack of reaction time or perception. (not to mention F'ing up your sense of smell and taste)

That's a very good point.. but Sarsons... side effects of any drug differ from person to person. My father is nearly 40 years old now, and has been smoking marijuana since he was 18 and is experiencing NO LAG in his mental health. He's a damn smart guy, and even a supervisor for a high paid company. My uncle, my father's little brother, is a private high school graduate... St. Pius X High School... now I don't know how you others feel about private school.. but if you have ever been in magnet then taken a transfer to private.. you see how remarkably different it is... "different" meaning harder, and requiring you to focus much more. My uncle is nearly 27.. and has been smoking pot since he was 15... he graduated high school, (from a pvt school...), then to go on to college at Columbia University, (MU). He did drop out of college after a couple years... not because he was stupid... but because he decided to go to work in the family business that my grandfather owns. My grandfather, however, is not a pothead... this shows.. that both non-mj users and potheads can be successful and smart. It just depends on the person.

Edited July 12, 2010 by Cramer 1st MRB

[Sarsons]

basically my point lies in that I am a Biology student, and when you look at cross sections of human brain and compare tissues from a marijuana user to those of a non user, there is a scary amount of scaring that has resulted from neuropathy and the brains natural plasticity to try and over come these new obstacles (dead areas thou small can be many) Now I am going to bed, so I won't see any response

[Costa 1st MRB]

Well the mental degradation would be different if your job involves a lot of math or mental activity. It's why stoners that are students who don't care, tend to take on the stereotypical "whaaaat dood" then people that are working in jobs that require a lot of counting. That also leads to claims of pot making people super dumb because most of the kids that take on the stereotype would rather toke up then get serious work done.

[Legend]

One Plant lol